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June 29, 2009, 8:56 am
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Disclaimer:
This survey is by no means scientific, authoritative or comprehensive. Also, because the purpose of my blog is simply to spark creative conversations (see my first post), I’m going to keep free of commentary. I simply want to introduce to you the results of a survey I conducted this weekend, and the reasons why I conducted it.

What:
An independent survey of 50 young ministers – who are associated with 4 organizations, and some who are associated with no organizations – on the future of casual and formal church attire in the Apostolic movement.

When:
Sunday, June 28 & Monday, June 29, 2009.

Why:
This is a subject that makes frequent appearances in conversations with my peers, so I felt it was important to engage it with a larger audience. I find myself increasingly interested in the motives, methods and mindsets of young Apostolic leaders in my generation. We are certainly a group that appreciates sharing our opinions and ideals, so I hope to capitalize on that openness through a series of surveys, and perhaps provide somewhat of a glimpse into the future of the Apostolic movement. I also felt this survey could benefit two types of people in particular:
1.) Young leaders (church planters, pastors, ministers, etc) that are invested in our movement and may be curious as to what the prevailing perception is regarding church attire among your peers, and,
2.) Older leaders who fall into the 40+ crowd who are interested in understanding this younger generation’s views on some of the more traditional aspects of Apostolic church culture.

How:
I simply picked up my cell phone & text messaged 50 young ministers that I am connected to, and asked them this question: “If/when you start a church, would the attire be more casual, less casual, or the same as your current church attire?” On the same cell phone, I opened the calculator application & crunched the percentages. I am absolutely sure there are better ways to conduct a survey, and certainly better ways to maintain anonymity, such as a blind poll hosted on my blog, but I had to start somewhere.

Admittedly, the question is probably slightly loaded. The direction you take concerning attire may vary depending on whether you plant a new church or inherit an established one, but I feel it’s a question that when answered, does a decent job of addressing the issue at hand.

Who:
50 young Apostolic leaders. I tried to survey a multiplicity of young leaders in an attempt to include the West Coast, South West, Mid West, South, & East Coast. Organizationally, I surveyed young leaders associated with the following organizations: UPCI, WPF, ALJC & AAFLCJ (Spanish Apostolic), as well as young leaders who have no organizational affiliation. Somebody asked me on Twitter why I only surveyed young ministers. My response to that is simple. The survey of older ministers (40+) is already being published. Simply look at the current culture of our movement. Overwhelmingly, our pastors are over 40, and overwhelmingly, our churches promote a culture where formal attire is the expectation.

One of the concerns among respondents was anonymity. I respect that, so if you’d like to join the conversation, please leave a comment, you can do so anonymously if you wish. God bless you all, thanks for participating.

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Excerpts
“The attire would fit the culture and environment in which the church resided… I would say casual.” -Houston area

“Depends on how & where… 1.) how church is being planted, i.e. home bible study, storefront, rented facilities, etc., 2.) where church is being planted (urban, suburban, rural, domestic or foreign), and 3.) what is the cultural norm or acceptance for church dress in the demographic area where the church is being planted.” – Sacramento area

“Casual. Outsiders don’t want to dress up. Jesus lived to make outsiders comfortable.” -Louisiana

“Casual in dress, formal in attitude and approach.” -San Diego area

Results

Less Casual – 0%
More Casual – 82.6%
Same Attire– 17.4 %

AAFLCJ – 3%
ALJC – 3%
Independent – 11%
UPC – 76%
WPF – 7%

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Here’s what my Sunday looked like a few weeks ago:

Navy 2-button suit by DKNY – $400 (sale price at The Rack). Jospeh Abboud dress shirt – $70. Skinny tie from English Laundry – $25. Throw in a pair of Kenneth Cole cufflinks – $29.99, a belt from Target – $19.99, and my Hugo Boss black dress shoes – $250… Grand total, not including socks, silk insert, etc… Just shy of $1,000. All in the name of giving God my “Sunday Best”.

Whether you think church should be more or less casual, I’m positive we can agree that there’s got to be a better, more effective way to give our “best” to God than spending outrageous amounts of money on fancy outfits.

I think what began as a honest attempt to cultivate a culture of reverence for the house of God has become more of a fashion show than an act of worship.

Let me pose a question: is our “Sunday Best” more closely related to Vanity Fair than the Book of Acts? Well, if we spend more on suits & ties than we do on meeting needs in our cities, the answer is sadly, yes.

Comment by Anonymous

We’re quick to tear down traditions, because we don’t like them, for one reason or another – plain and simple. We even throw in Barna stats to substantiate our reasons, but the bottom line is traditions are being broken in favor of NEW traditions that we prefer. Let’s not be so pious in die casting ‘traditions’ as a bad word, if we’re attempting to create new ones ourselves.

Comment by Anonymous Saint

As opposed to being so pious as to blindly cherish antiquated traditions simply because “we’ve always done it this way”? It’s got to work both ways.

And if you can’t examine statistics (Barna), engage culture and be willing to be flexible on non-salvational issues, then you have no shot at reaching the post-modern generation.

Comment by To Anonymous Saint

Anything that separates us from the things of God, from a 
$1000 Suit to T.V. is wrong. I think the attire that was worn by the 
early church was different from the “tradition” we have had for the 
last 50 years. I believe as long as you are presentable, i.e. pants and 
shirt for guys and dress or skirt for ladies, you can’t go wrong. We 
are required to be separate from the world, I believe we can achieve that 
with casual attire. It all depends on the location of the church, you 
can try as hard as you want to get your congregation to wear a suit 
and a tie that equal $500-$1000, but if 80% of your congregation cannot 
spend that amount on a suit or outfit, then what are you telling them? 
That if you do not dress like “me” (pastor) then you are not worthy of 
God’s love. Don’t get me wrong, a pastor should lead by example. There 
are alternatives that cost less than DKNY, but sometimes it is a
cultural issue too. This past Sunday it was 95 degrees and I was
thinking to myself we have Air conditioning but it is still warm
in the church, and we are expected to jump shout and run the
aisles with dress shoes, slacks, dress shirt and tie?? I think I
have said enough, some traditions are good and should not change,
but I am in my early 20s and believe that God would rather us be
comfortable/presentable then be in starchy uncomfortable clothes. God Bless!
 

Comment by Anonymous

Thanks for the comments & discussion folks. Appreciate you all!

Comment by davidmcgovern




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